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#1 luthoro

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 06:57 PM

Didn't know where to put this so I'll just stick it here. An admin can move it if need be.

I'm looking for a recommendation for a good speed shop in the STL area with a dyno and more importantly with experience tuning 5.0 Fords. I'll probably be using a Quarterhorse or SCT but I don't have much experience tuning and custom tune > canned tune so I'd much rather just take it somewhere and throw it on a dyno and have it tuned by a professional with the experience to do it right the first time.

The build isn't going to happen til next spring or summer, I'm just gathering information right now. The only stock part of the engine when Im done will be the short block (for now, I may end up rebuilding the bottom end too at some point down the road). I'll be using a calibrated MAF matched with the larger injectors but since I'll also be using aftermarket H/C/I the calibrated MAF by itself wont be enough to get the most power out of my setup.

Thanks in advance

PS. Can the stock fuel pump flow enough for 30lb injectors or do I need to upgrade to a Walbro 255?

Edited by luthoro, 12 December 2013 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 06:59 PM

New 5.0? Bob at STLMustangs us the man by everyone's testimonies on here

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 07:04 PM

No, old 5.0. Windsor. Sorry, I should've mentioned that. I don't want a street tune, I want it done on a dyno so when its done I know my whp/wtq numbers.

Edited by luthoro, 12 December 2013 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:12 PM

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:47 PM

Set the timing and fuel pressure and be done, absolutely no need for a custom tune with that setup.  Add a blower or turbo and thats a different story.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 05:36 AM

I know it'll run that way, I just figured I could get more power out of it with a custom tune. Is that not the case? Sorry for asking stupid questions. I've mostly built imports in the past, this is my first domestic project. It will be staying all motor for the foreseeable future to maintain reliability since its my daily.

Edited by luthoro, 13 December 2013 - 05:38 AM.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:42 AM

What cam and stuff? I ran an 11:1 331 with 42lb inj. And did fine with no custom tune. When I stepped up to a t trim I went with a pms and had Bob Kurgan tune it. However that was well over 500rwhp and it was on 110 and meth injected.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:12 AM

http://m.summitracin...fs-k514-360350b

That Trick Flow top end package ^^. Along with headers, Trick Flow TFX 30lb injectors and TFX fuel rail kit, 75mm MAF calibrated for 30lb injectors, 75mm throttle body, etc. There are some things I still need to order but I already have some of the parts for my build. Im just waiting til spring/summer to tear into it so the weather will be nice while Im working on it and so I can use my week paid vacation to get it done in one shot before I have to get back on the road (Im an over the road truck driver).

Edit: the TFX fuel rail kit came with an adjustable FPR so I will have the option to play with the fuel pressure if thats really all I'll need to do.

Its just supposed to a fun daily and stoplight warrior, not an all-out 9-10 sec track car. If I can get close to or break 300whp with this setup I'll be happy with that.

Edited by luthoro, 13 December 2013 - 07:35 AM.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:21 AM

Put it together right and run it down to Bob at STLM. He has two dynos down there and can get you both a custom calibration and dyno numbers.

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#10 luthoro

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:05 AM

Ok cool. Sounds like he's definitely the guy to take it to for a good tune once I've built it. Will I need to bring a Quarterhorse or SCT tuner or does he already have everything needed to tune it? Either way it will have an Innovative LC-1 wideband o2 sensor/gauge installed so I can monitor A:FRs.

Thanks for the info guys and sorry for the dumb questions :)

Edit: I'll start another thread if I need to but I figured I'd add it to this one first and see if I can get some info. Kinda unrelated question: I have a 4R70W transmission that will be behind this engine, but it needs to be overhauled. I already have the rebuild kit (with heavy duty bands and friction discs) and a B&M 2400 stall TC. Is there someone local you guys can recommend to overhaul it for me for a reasonable price? I have plenty of experience doing engine work so I will be putting the engine together myself but rebuilding a transmission is something I've never done before. If not I will attempt it myself because theres no way in hell I'm paying shop labor prices at $100+/hour. Figured it couldn't hurt to find out what, if any, other options are available to me though.

Edited by luthoro, 14 December 2013 - 10:49 AM.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:19 PM

Bob sells Moates and SCT as well. He can take care of you there too.

What year is your 4R70? There may be a couple other things that need updated to later model parts that are much better. If you need these parts, I have them.
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:27 PM

He does? Thats awesome, one less thing to worry about.

Its a 95 model year transmission
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:12 PM

You will want to upgrade to a later mechanical diode and stub shaft. Yours has a roller diode which are bad about blowing apart and the stub shaft has a groove machined in it that makes it weak. I have the parts that i can send you. I am about 2 hours south of STL, but I do build a few 4R70s too.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 07:36 AM

Good to know, thanks. Would you be willing to rebuild mine with those better parts if I were to bring it to you along with the rebuild kit I have for it? If so, what would you charge me? I do most of my own work but in the case of the trans I'd rather take it to someone that already knows what they're doing, and since you have the better parts you're recommending I use, having you do it would save me alot of trouble.
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Posted 16 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

This is really stupid, I wanted to PM that jinx44 guy ^ about possibly rebuilding my transmission since he hasn't replied to this thread since my last reply but I cant figure out how. Am I just blind? Where the hell is the send private message button on here??
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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:13 PM

I think you have to have 50 posts


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:27 PM

Well damn it I hope he reads this then lol
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 01:18 PM

+1 Bob @ stl mustangs






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